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Ancestral Weapons

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Ancestral Weapons contains rules for scaling heirloom weapons and quick-building magic weapons.

A noble blade wielded in the blood wars, an axe used to protect the great city of Mirabar from orc invasions, or a powerful staff passed down by great sorcerers through the aeons. Ancestral Weapons are iconic within roleplaying. These weapons embody a character’s family, story, and history.

Ancestral Weapons are powerful heirlooms gifted through the generations that scale up in power as your adventurers perform heroic deeds. As these weapons grow, they unlock new and more powerful upgrades such as inflicting damage caused by the elemental energy trapped inside, causing a foe to flee in fear when struck, or allowing you to deflect even the fiercest of blows. 

Due to the Spirit Point mechanic used within this system, you can also quickly develop new and thematic magic items to hand out to your players. Players can also use this system to let their heroes forge balanced and fun magic items with the included crafting rules.

Inside the pages of this supplement you will find:

  • Rules for using scaling Ancestral Weapons in D&D 5e

  • Over 130 weapon upgrades, to make your weapon as unique as your character

  • Rules to quick-build magic items for your campaign

  • The Spirit Point Crafting System allowing players to forge unique and thematically appropriate weapons

  • Tables to randomly generate thematic ancestral traits and epic weapon history

  • 4 example Ancestral Weapons, developed by our playtesters, each with 4 iterations used in their campaigns

  • 4 example non-ancestral weapons, built using the spirit point system

The product is supplemented by fantastic artwork, with an evocative cover by Fernando Gregory Milan, and heroic chapter art by Kostic Dusan.

Ancestral Weapons carry the weight of expectation, physical reminders of generations of epic feats. Can your hero carry the weapon in its next grand chapter?

Ancestral Weapons Cover  Ancestal Weapons Contents  Ancestral Weapons Chapter 1  

Ancestal Weapons Page 10 upgrades  Ancestal Weapons Chapter 3  Ancestral Weapons Chapter 5  

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Evan N October 17, 2021 6:07 pm UTC
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As comments mention below there's a few redundancies and missing rules text.

My only complaint is that there are not really caster options. You have Magus, but nothing grants to spell saves as in-game items do. Even caster-centric options are still martial-focused. Would like to see a post-Tasha's update with wording fixes and a potential supplement focused for casters.
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Brent D September 17, 2021 5:41 pm UTC
My DM is using this and we're finding it very useful. So far there are 2 weapons in the campaign designed from this, and they have been cool additions. I also have some questions about a couple of the upgrades:
1) Duelist - Does the AC bonus apply against the triggering attack? What is the duration of the AC bonus?
2) Doomerang - What is the range for the thrown weapon?
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Stephen W May 31, 2021 10:02 pm UTC
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I was surprised there wasn't a returning effect. Throw dagger/ax/whatever and it comes back to your hand.
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Brandon T March 19, 2021 7:54 pm UTC
is this coded for fantasy grounds?
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Ralph T April 22, 2021 2:00 pm UTC
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Yes, and here you go.

https://www.dmsguild.com/product/286091/Ancestral-Weapons-Fantasy-Grounds?src=by_author_of_product
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Patrick B February 09, 2021 3:31 am UTC
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Problem with Spell Storing Level 4 and 5 (lvl 5 is marked as level 4). Level 4 is:You must complete a short or long rest before you can use this ability again, but level 5 is only long rest ?
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Patrick B February 09, 2021 3:33 am UTC
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Oh by the way my players are loving this !!!! It adds another layer !
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Riley C January 12, 2021 7:33 pm UTC
Have you thought about doing an expanded version of this that replaces all magic items with this spirit points system?

I really like your system, and would really love to swap out literally everything with it.
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Andrew M October 21, 2020 10:59 pm UTC
Is the intention with 'Charged Smite: When you deal damage with the divine smite feature, you deal an additional d8 radiant damage' that the maximum number of D8s you can roll in a divine smite also increases? RAW, the maximum damage a divine smite can deal is 6d8, would this increase that maximum to 7d8?

Thank you!
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Patrick M September 15, 2020 8:56 pm UTC
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I had a question regarding the Magus upgrade: Are they cumulative so the level 2 is a +4? Otherwise, why upgrade to level two if the benefit is exactly the same?
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Patrick B February 09, 2021 2:15 pm UTC
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upgrades erases the previous one with the same name, so Magus level 1 gives +1 and Magus level 2 makes it +2. They don't stack.
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David S February 07, 2020 8:11 pm UTC
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Has anybody tried this one in combination with The Complete Armorer‘s Handbook by heavyarms?
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Chris B January 01, 2020 11:56 pm UTC
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I love this book i do have one question. You have an Axe with elemental attunment (fire) and overpowered (ice) and yet i can not find those enhancements. am i missing something?
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Patrick B February 09, 2021 2:24 pm UTC
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Those upgrades don't exist in the upgrades. I think that they have been drawn before final printing.
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Michael S November 30, 2019 5:46 pm UTC
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I really like this book. It gives a history to weapons, but even better it ensures that a character can have that signature weapon that grows along with their legend so they never feel the need to exchange it for a better one. I'm with one of the commentators below that it should either be expanded to include other magical items.
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Hannah O October 11, 2019 4:05 pm UTC
My group has been using your Ancestral Weapons system in our game, and it has worked really well! Thank you for building this; it provides a strong story element in RP as well as allowing us to feel connected to our weapons and not have to give them up as we find better, magical ones.

However, I am introducing a new character (and retiring my old), who's a wizard. I love telling a story of the weapons to create a richer campaign, so I want to be able to use this as a wizard. But, my character won't really be using a melee weapon, and a lot of these are weapon damage based.

Would you guys ever think about putting together an Ancestral Items list? Also, how could I make the best use of the AW system as a wizard?
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Robert K November 06, 2019 5:14 pm UTC
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There are several upgrades that add an extra spell slot, give proficiency, gain swim/fly speeds, and stuff like that within the list. Id make it a staff or a symbolic weapon like a crystal sword or a bell mace or something and give it the upgrades like an ioun stone would have, or simply homebrew the DMG bonuses like 'Infusion' or 'enhanced weapon' to affect cantrips, since they are near direct correlations to mundane weapon attacks.
Oh, and theres upgrades for spell attack bonus, and AC for that squishy wizard. even sarumon had a magic staff.
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Patrick B February 09, 2021 2:29 pm UTC
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I've come with similar questions from my players. Our Barbarian/cleric (yeah I know) have Dawnbringner from the OOTA (sentient +2 sunblade) so he came up with the idea of a ceremonial weapon attached to his belt that gives bonuses and buff. He won't use it as a weapon properly.
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john K September 09, 2019 2:57 am UTC
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Has an item character sheet been made yet? I can't wait to use this in my new group, but this would be super handy to have.
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Nave T July 25, 2019 8:14 pm UTC
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I loved the concept of the Vestiges of Divergents from Critical Role, but this is even better! It really puts more player driven story into the items and world since they chose the direction for the item. As both a player and a dungeon master thats just really awesome to see, as it truly is an item that grows and changes with you- and not always how you initially planned for it. The crafting system for a non ancestral magic item also makes it much easier for a DM to judge how hard it is to craft a certain item (something i've personally struggled with while running games) so its a huge help in the more nitty gritty portions of playing or estimating costs. I look forward to implementing this in the future!

I do have one clarification however, under the Upgrade Restrictions section, the wording somewhat confuses me- Do things with the (Level #) tag count the (Level #) as a name? IE can you not take both enhanced weapon (level 1) & infusion (level 1) as they both have the tag? The same goes...See more
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Patrick B February 09, 2021 2:33 pm UTC
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it's well said in the book, upgrade with the same name (lvl is not in the name) don't stack and can't be used twice. Overpower is the name of the upgrade you can't have two, regardless of the specification between parenthesises.
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Charles L July 19, 2019 12:45 pm UTC
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Love love! this book! May I ask what was updated from version 1.1 to 1.2?
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Cameron A June 23, 2019 4:24 am UTC
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Hello,
I am currently working on additional upgrades for Ancestral Weapons for the Epic Legacy supplement by 2CGaming and I was wondering you had any extra ideas the would help. In case you are wondering Epic Legacy adds 10 additional levels and many abilities to 5E. Thanks for reading.

-Cameron
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