Yeah, this class is horribly out of date, not necissarily horribly out of balance but I'm currently planning an entire rework of this class that's not as confusing but it's still long due to the nature of the rework (which is why it's taking me forever) and still decently balanced. I'd recommend just ignoring this class and checking out my Toon class which is something I put a lot more effort into.

I would personally rule that no matter what, the Logic permutation can not reduce a creature's ability score below 1.

Fair

1. Permutations always change the base's damage as stated, if there are two on a base such as the case for the Empowered Weapon, both damage changes apply except for the changes that increase the weapon's damage or increase it's damage dice. The purpose of this essentially is to make it so you can't just have a weapon that deals an absurd amount of damage, but you can still use the permutation's effects.

2. In the case with Armor or Skin, the creature that attacked is the creature affected. As for Permute Self, applying a damaging permutation to yourself does damage you as per the rules listed. As for Port, Port teleports you to the center of the base, which in this case would be you, so, rules as written, you would simply teleport in place.

Thank you for the clarifications! I'll be sure to mark these down in my notes.

Slightly off-topic: There's a character in a game series I like that flies by constantly teleporting in place, though this is more due to a natural ability that she isn't fully aware of.

When multiclassing with another spellcasting class, I would rule that it works pretty much the same way as multiclassing another spellcasting class with Warlock in that you can use Weave Slots to cast spells but can't add permutations to regular spells because permutations can only apply to Bases.

As for Font of Magic and Metamagic, both can be used to restore Weave Slots or alter Weaves since they functionally work the same when interacting with anything that dictates a spell.

That makes sense, thank you.

No problem

Neat suggestion!

Thanks for the suggestions! I'm currently not planning an update for the class cause I kinda bounce from what I like to work on but I'll take these into account.

That's fine, good luck with your other projects! Should I keep posting the experiences I have with my own weaver and any suggestions I think of anyway, in case you decide to do an update two years from now or so?

One thing I noticed as I was looking at the transmuter is that the alter weight ability appears to say that you can only change the weight of objects by a fixed amount, which increases by level (so when you're level 4, you can only make the object 20lbs heavier or lighter, but not, say, 10lbs). Is it meant to be like that, or should I take it as the maximum amount of weight you can add/remove?

Edit: One more thing. How does the Port permutation interact with the Blast base? Where is the center of a cone? The middle of the far rim, maybe?

Sure, go ahead and ask me any questions, tell me any of the experiences you have, and give me any suggesions. I read all comments on all my homebrew, artwork, and animations, and I take everything into account and try my best to respond to it all.

Thanks for bringing up the Alter Weight thing, it's actually a typo that I have not gotten around to fixing because I like to have each update to my classes be substantial such as balance changes all around the board or new subclasses. You're meant to be able to choose UP to the amount listed, so you're not just fixed to the maximum of the formula.

As for the Port/Blast interaction, the source is technically the Weaver itself, so rules as written, the Weaver would just teleport in place unfortunately.

Thanks! But Port can't teleport you into a space that's already occupied, right? So maybe when the Weaver ports to the space they're already in, they would overlap with themselves for a moment, shunting themselves to a space adjacent to their original position?

Base suggestion:

Burst
School: Conjuration
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: 5 feet
Components: V
Duration: Instantaneous

The air around you crackles as you shake the weave. Each creature within range, other than you, must succeed on a Dexterity saving throw or take 1d6 force damage, triggering any permutation affecting this base.
At Higher Levels: When you cast this weave using a weave slot of 2nd level or higher, the damage increases by 1d6 for each slot level above 1st.


Permutation suggestion:

Sensor
Damage Type: Psychic
Saving Throw: Charisma
While this permutation affects a creature, you can use that creature's senses, using the rules of the Beast Sense spell. If multiple creatures are affected, you can use a bonus action to switch between them.
When this permutation is used on a hostile creature, it can make a saving throw (either the one from the base or the permutation) to end this...See more effect. On a success, you are removed from this creature's mind and take 1d4 psychic damage. If you can keep your concentration, you can choose to use the senses of another creature affected by the permutation. If it fails the saving throw, you can use your reaction to apply 1d4 psychic damage to the target.
A creature can repeat their saving throw at the end of their turn. The effect ends when you lose concentration on the weave or lasts until the end of your next turn if the weave was instantaneous.

Another Permutation suggestion:

Bolster
Damage Type: Radiant
Saving Throw: Constitution
When this permutation is triggered, any bases affected by it roll a lower damage diie if the base does damage. For example, if a base deals 1d10 damage, you instead roll 1d8.
Affected allied creatures gain temporary hit points equal to 1d4 + your constitution modifier + the weave slot's level. Hostile creatures lose that amount of temporary hit points, if they have any.
This lasts for the duration of the weaves, or, if it is instantanous, until the end of your next turn.

The intended meaning of this is that permutations that you cannot increase its damage die (for example, a club is 1d4, a permutation cannot change a summoned club to 1d6) and a permutation cannot make a weapon gain additional damage die (for example, a club is 1d4, a permutation cannot change a summoned club to 2d4)

The purpose of the weapon is simply to create a weapon option that allows you to pass on Permutations. You can still use permutations that apply additional damage without affecting the dice of the weapon, for example, if you used a summoned weapon in conjunction with the Acid permutation, the Acid permutation's ability to deal damage to a creature at the end of their turn would still be in affect.

A permutation does not directly increase the damage dice or the amount of damage dice you are rolling with the summoned weapon, but permutations that apply damaging effects without affecting the dice of the weapon such as the Acid permutation still trigger, just without the ability...See more to influence the weapon's dice.

Therefore, the point of the Empowered Weapon feature would be to simply apply two harmful effects to a creature instead of one.

So to be clear does that mean that the
"If the base does not deal damage, the damage of the weave
is 1d12." thus increasing the damage of the weapon? or do only the peripheral effects, (including the ones that do damage) apply?

Only the peripheral effect (including ones that deal damage) apply, any effects that directly affect the damage dice of the weapon do not.

Thanks for your long post and all your critique!

You're totally right, after considering it, I should have made the Illusionist's level 14 ability weaker as to not cause illusions to become broken. I'll be sure to fix that for the next update. Although, the next update won't come out until I finish another subclass for The Weaver such as the Diviner, which is the one I'm currently working on.

Currently however, my focus is not on the Conjurer, its abilities, or other bases, and after play testing it, I'm decently happy with how the Conjurer turned out, (my Conjurer just turned 15th level and we're having a lot of fun with her! :D) I do appreciate the feedback and the base idea though! Perhaps I'll use it in another update, if I do, you'll get credit for the idea of course.

A future update for this class might take a little while though because I'm currently focusing on three other projects right now, a new class, a paired together race and subclass book similar to my Book...See more of the Monkey that accompanies an animation I'm working on, and a new subclass book with 12 subclasses. I flip flop between what I like to work on depending on the ideas in my head at the time so apologies if you were really hoping for another Weaver update soon.

Thank you for your support though, I'm just essentially telling you these things for the sake of transparency and for interaction with my community! Have a good day!

Okay. I'm totally fine with you taking your time between updates. Also looking forward to the subclass book the archetypes for weirdos book had a lot of cool subclasses in there so I'm excited to see what the new book will have.

Cool idea, I actually had a healing permutation in the first version of the class called the Mend permutation, but it was removed due to the overpowered possibility of using bases such as the Square base to constantly heal in an area of effect. I found that people looking to minmax or break the game would take this at level 1 and just use it as an alternative to short resting.

However, a drain base or permutation would possibly work out well with some tweaking, especially with the inclusion of the new necroweaver subclass. If I end up using this idea, I will of course credit you in the new update.

Speaking of the Necroweaver subclass the level 14 Miasma of Souls seems a little under powered when compared to the other level 14 features. Mostly cause the feature only focuses on the explosion attack of the Volatile Soul which is fairly weak even with a character with a 20 in Wisdom. That comes out to a possible max of 13 damage which by that level is not very good. Of course I'm viewing the feature just as it stands with the subclass and not if they use the Raise base with an added permutation. Now if the subclass could increase the damage further or summon multiple Volatile Souls within the Miasma I feel it could be a bit better. Like maybe they can summon a Volatile Soul in the Miasma as a bonus action but they can't go over a certain amount. And the Souls have to stay in the Miasma otherwise they go away. Also there doesn't seem to be a time limit for the feature.

Not that bad of an idea actually. I was trying to think in terms of how it would affect the fight in the longer term considering that you're likely to have 4 or so undead in addition to the souls you create during the fight using the Soul Craft feature, but in hindsight, creatures that you would fight be the 14th level range would be pretty strong, so having the ability to summon souls as a bonus action would not be too far out of balance plausibility considering how weak they are.

Yeah plus when you look at the Soul Craft feature the creature has to be within 10ft of you or an undead you control. If the player doesn't take the Raise base or if they decide to stick to ranged combat then they would never actually get any Volatile Souls at all. Since most spellcasters tend to stay away from the actual combat in order to better cast spells. And unlike the Conjurer subclass the Necroweaver isn't set up to better help with up close fighting so chances are the player would keep to a ranged build that stays away from combat. If that becomes the case then pretty much the entire subclass becomes useless to the player. That means then that they get railroaded into getting the Raise base in order to properly use the subclass. A possible fix to this is copy the Conjurer subclass and give the player the Raise base right off the bat. I would say get rid of Weave to Evil cause the only benefit you get from that is just changing the damage type. It does allow the player to change up how some Weaves work...See more but as the subclass is now giving the player the Raise base at level 2 makes the subclass work better.

This is all really great feedback! Thanks for all the help! I'll be sure to keep it all in mind!

You're welcome. If you need anyone to help with design stuff or balancing let me know. I'm technically a Game Designer. I say technically cause I have the degree but no job yet.

Welp...that's embarrassing, I even set out to fix it in this update and somehow made it worse xD. Luckily, I'm working on a new update now and I'll make sure to SPECIFICALLY fix it this time.

Sounds amazing! Looking forward to it.

Thanks for your questions, let me go ahead and answer them for you! (Also, don't worry about offending me, I have thick skin and I love to hear feedback and questions so I can make my stuff the best it can be.

The intention of the spell is to make you immune to that ONE instance of the spell, meaning no saving throws are required and you take no damage or any effects of the spell at all. If the effect of the spell you absorbed is triggered on you again, the feature does not work anymore. The feature also only works in the instance that the spell was cast on you and not on any future turns that you are affected by it, but you are also still affected by any ill effects the spell leaves behind such as the Entangle spell's difficult terrain.

For example, if a monster casts Confusion on you and you are in it's radius, you can use the feature to just ignore the spell entirely, but if you are already affected by the spell and make a saving throw against it, Catalyst can not be used.
...See more /> So, to clarify again, the feature ONLY works if you are using it in the VERY INSTANCE of the spell being cast and you become entirely unaffected by ANY EFFECTS THE SPELL CREATES WHEN CAST and NOT ANY FUTURE TRIGGERS OF THE SPELL OR EFFECTS THE SPELL LEAVES BEHIND AFTER BEING CAST THAT DO NOT REQUIRE A SAVING THROW TO BE AFFECTED BY SUCH AS DIFFICULT TERRAIN OR EFFECTS THAT REQUIRE YOU TO MAKE FUTURE SAVING THROWS SUCH AS STINKING CLOUD.

Thanks for bringing this up, I'll be sure to fix this in the next update!

This is a misprint. It's meant to be 1d8, thanks for catching this mistake, it will be fixed next update.